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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 07:21

I'm so lost with all this. How would I do the 250 then?? I'm supposed to be getting my "cycle" soon so I don't know if that will affect it too. I'm assuming you don't do the SL method either while you menstrate........correct??

I don't feel really hungry so maybe it is ok.

How many days do you youself do the Hcg at a time?? If you only do the 23 days then how long do you stay off it until you can do it again??

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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 10:22

I would have to know exactly how you mixed your hcg. How many IUs, how much total liquid. How do you dose now to get your 200 total?

The only difference between injections and subL is the way it is administered and how much you need to take. Once the hcg is in your system, it works the same, so you diet the same, take breaks the same, everything. Many women continue dosing right through their period and a lot stop for a few days. It is totally up to you.

There are some who are purist and do breaks exactly as Dr. S says to do them. Personally I do only 1-2 weeks off and then jump back in. Everything continues to work just the same: dosage, continued losses, skin tightening, no immunity. In fact, usually the only reason I stop p2 at all is because I get tired of the restrictions. We are having a family reunion in July this year, so I want to be on p4. That means I MUST stop in 2.5 weeks this time. I won't start p2 again until some time in August or maybe even December, depending if I decide to do any cleansing first.

If you do only a short round of p2 (23 days), the breaks would still be the same according to Dr. S, but still totally up to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 11:13

Sorry, just saw these posts! I am very careful to allow the liquid to stay under my tongue for as long as I can stand it, usually at least 10 mins. I have seen conflicting amounts of time so I just do it as long as I can. I know on the back of my B12 it says 30sec, another bottle said 60 sec, but I don't think that's long enough for the hcg. How long are you holding the liquid under your tongue? It should be squirted underneath the tongue, sort of on the side in that space between the bottom inside row of teeth and where the tongue attaches. I know that's important for absorption. So putting it in your mouth or swallowing too soon could affect absorption.

Are you taking it twice a day, 12 hours apart? Still storing it in the fridge? Avoiding hot or cold foods immediately before and after? Let us know, we'll help you figure it out!
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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 11:34

You are very enlightening. So how do you go about eating then when you take 1-2 weeks off?? That is the reasoning I'm not sure how long I can do it without having some sort of sweets!!

If I can make it that long, I was going to do the 45 days and I would end right before the 4th of July and we have company coming but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to go back to P1 or P3. I thought you didn't do P3 until you lost everything you wanted to?? So what is the reasoning behind stopping Hcg during your period??

My mix was 2(1500IU) and 1.5 ml water and 1.5 ml alcohol. I've been taking .1ml twice a day.
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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 11:37

I'm not doing the B12 just the bacteriostatic water.

I guess I was told to hold it for like 5 minutes under the tongue and that's what I've been doing.
It seems like it's gone by 5 minutes??

I've done it twice a day, 12 hours apart and storing it in the fridge.

Thanks for your help moving flower

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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 13:04

OK, so 0.2cc = 200 IUs, just like we have mixed for injections. That means for 250 IUs you need to draw a total of 0.25cc total, or 0.125cc each time.

The recipe I have for subL uses equal parts oral B12 and distilled liquor (rum, vodka, etc). It helps with absorption. But I've also seen recipes with B12 and water (instead of the liquor).

The normal progression of phases is: p1 (optional), p2 (3-6 weeks), p3 (3 weeks), p4 (3+ weeks), p2, p3, p4, p2, p3, p4, etc. until you have taken all your weight off, then do p3, p4, and go on to the rest of your life. It is mainly the p4 that some of us are eleminating . . . and even some of p3.

The only reasons to stop p2 and using hcg are signs of immunity (hunger, no weight loss) or just "needing" to take a break from the limited diet. For myself, I just know when I've gotten to the point I need a break! I'm sure you will, too giggle
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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Wed Jun 04 2008, 22:00

Okay great.........thank you!! cheering

I'll let you know how it goes the next couple of days.

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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Sat Jun 07 2008, 08:27

So what is the reasoning behind stop Hcg during your period??

So how do you do it if you need a break?? What do you eat and then do you just start right back in??

How long should you do it before you take a break??

Could a person just have one day off??

Oh, and by the way I'm under 200#, I've lost 13.5# to date cheerleader 2

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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Sun Jun 08 2008, 12:23

cheering Yay, Theresa, for getting under the 200's! cheering cheering

As far as stopping injections, most stop for one to 2 days and continue with the VLCD during that time. You don't want to stop for longer than that though because the hcg will leave the system after 72 hours and any fat you will be burning will be structural fat. If you have to go off longer than that you want to increase your calories to offset.
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PostSubject: Re: Probably hit a vein   Fri Jun 13 2008, 20:17

okay, I got the sub B12, which is like tablets so how much do you use to mix with the 200ml dosage??

I just did alcohol and bacteriostatic water last time and it seems to be working but I would be willing to try the B12.

At some point do you need to up your dosage after you lose some weight or how does that work.

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