STARVING and somewhat discouraged...

Subject: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Fri Feb 22 2008, 12:12

I did my two load days Monday and Tuesday. I feel like I loaded quite significantly, by Tuesday night I thought about going and getting ice cream but it just didn't sound good! I even ate lots of Long John Silvers to the point I almost felt sick on Tuesday. So now it is Friday and my third day with the HCG VCLD diet. I have been so hungry the past two days! This morning I was so hungry I could hardly think. I feel like I'm starving! I know I'm not but it sure feels like it...and it is making me kind of cranky. :P I'm taking 200 IU's of the HCG per KT's recommendation, I would think the extra would help take the edge off. :P

Also Wednesday morning one of the twins (doggone it couldn't figure out which one!) broke my digital scale that I had set out to weigh my meat. So the last 3 days I have just been estimating what 3.5 ounces of meat is and only eating fish, chicken and once some shrimp because I'm afraid I couldn't do it right with beef and since it is so much more caloric than chicken I have stayed away from it till my new scale I ordered off ebay comes in.

In the morning is the hardest for me, I drink lots of green tea, yerbe mate, and some essiac tea too for my liver. Then I am drinking almost a gallon of water a day (and peeing all the time!). But in the morning and right before I go to bed I feel like I am going to cave.

Yesterday I was thrilled because I had lost 5 pounds when I weighed so it made it worth the hunger. But this morning when I weighed I had only lost .6 of a pound. I felt so discouraged. :( I wonder too if I didn't actually end up under eating yesterday because I didn't have a scale? I'm afraid to eat too much. I wish my bathroom scale would have worked but it will not weigh anything less than 4 pounds. :(

One of the most appealing things was KT said there would be no hunger! I'm feeling like my belly is gnawed out..and it's not just an emptiness as DrS described. He said lots of the patients couldn't seem to even eat all of their food. I wish I felt that way! I had decided to do as KT said and leave out the Melba because I gain weight so easy with bread, but I'm feeling so hungry I think I am going to have to add it in--if nothing more than for a few days till this hunger subsides!

I don't know, I guess I just needed to vent. I'm feeling so hungry and discouraged too. I want to go to the grocery store and pick up a few things like some melba and some cilantro to make that good looking salad dressing in the recipes section--but I am really afraid to go in a grocery store right now! I feel like eating everything in sight! :P

Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Fri Feb 22 2008, 12:24

Your hunger will subside. I promise! I too felt hungry...I know this sounds weird but try going down to 175 iu's this helped me and my sister. Also you will slowly be less and less hungry! By day 7 you will not feel this intense hunger! stay with it it will help you. And the weightloss will be your payoff. Try gramma smittys lemonade water with lemon and stevia. it helps you feel full! don't give up. you can do this! :wink 4:
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Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Fri Feb 22 2008, 12:35

For the first few days, eat all of your allowed food. This includes the melba toast or grissini. Like Laura said, drink GrammSmitty's lemonade. Juice of 1 lemon, stevia and a quart of water. Drink it slowly throughout the morning. At about 10am, take half an apple and cut it up into thin slices. Eat one slice very slowly, chewing completely before you swallow. Drink lemonade. Have another piece of thinly sliced apple. Drink more lemonade. Make your snack last at least 20 minutes. You can your other half and apple with lunch or as your afternoon snack.

The hunger does go away. I promise.

Don't skimp on your veggies. Lots of bulk with very few calories/carbs. Make chili, with beef/buffalo/chicken/whatever. Use lots of water and lots of seasoning. Soups and savoy cabbage stirfries/larbs get me really really full. Eat only half of your second fruit with dinner. Save the toher half for a before bed snack. Again make it last 20 minutes.

Have I said the hunger goes away? Think of that gnawing hunger as the yeast/bad organisms in your body dying and really trying to get you to eat sugar and starches so that they won't die. It is not you that is hungry. The hCG is releases fat/nutrients into your bloodstream so that YOUR body gets fed. Those pangs are the yeast/bad organisms releasing toxins that mimic hunger signals to get you to eat so that THEY get fed.

DO NOT give in. They are parasites and have learned how to make you react/behave for their survival. Period.
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Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Fri Feb 22 2008, 12:57

Have you thought to check your hcg? Could it be a bad batch?
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Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Fri Feb 22 2008, 17:52

Wow artic that's one awesome yet crazily graphic description! AKA the sugar monster that lives within! laugh 4

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Subject: Thanks :) Sat Feb 23 2008, 13:41

Thanks for the encoragment, yesterday was just a rough day but I made it through! :) I did not want to give up, but was discouraged and wondering how I was going to make through such gnawing hunger pains. I just couldn't even think clearly I felt so hungry. All I could think about was food! Not even bad for you food, things like cheese, broccoli and nuts looked so good. Funny thing is that's about all I've dreamt of the last 3 nights too, lol. :)

My dear sweet hubby brought me home his boss' postage scale (they won't need it back till Monday, and they are so good to him to let him borrow stuff) so I was able to weigh last nights supper and today's lunch. I was indeed under-eating! I am estimating by 100-150 calories too few. Last night the hunger subsided and I've felt much better today. :) Didn't even eat lunch till 1pm and I was still okay. I got back a little late, went to the grocery store this morning and did all my shopping to get some more things for the VCLD and I made it through just great. Walking past the bakery and the smells wafting from there was the hardest part! :)

Thanks for everyone's helpful advice. I'm thinking I solved the problem, that I wasn't eating enough? And I had lost a pound when I weighed this morning, YAY!! :clap:

Thanks artic for the advice, I think I took out the yeasties and parasites in Phase 1 but I went ahead and put my zapper on for most of the afternoon yesterday just in case. :wink 4:

I was thinking about the 175 ius, I may do that too if at any time I hit a stall or anything. I wonder if 200 is releasing a lot of extra fat for me and I'm not a terribly active person so I may not be burning all that I am releasing. I've only been able to squeeze in about 15 minutes of walking and 5-7 of rebounding each day and other than that I work at my computer and take care of the kiddos. And I didn't walk at all yesterday, I was so hungry I figured that was the last thing I wanted to do.

I just mixed up my hcg on Monday and it was from a newly opened 5000iu ampule so I think the hcg is okay. But how would I check it if I wanted to just to make sure? I am wishing I would have gotten the 1000iu because a 5000iu is making a 25 day supply and even though it says it will be fine refrigerated six weeks I can't help but think mixing a batch every 8 days might have been slightly better and a bit more potent. Oh well, I will know next time and when I recommend to friends. :) bear hug

Thanks again everyone! Caitlin Lorraine

Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Sat Feb 23 2008, 13:46

Caitlin- go get some cheapo pregnancy stick tests. Take a few drops of your hCG and place it on the pregnancy stick. It should tell you that you are expecting!!! That's how you know if your hCG is good.

And I only use 5000IU ampoules to mix. It is a pain in the neck doing smaller amounts, it cost more and I have never had a potency issues.
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Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Sat Feb 23 2008, 16:59

What is so strange that hunger and poor weight loss are both signs of too much or too little hcg. If you have the hunger under control, or even pretty close, give the 200 a chance to work for a couple of weeks. If overall losses don't seem good, then try lowering the dose to 175, or even down to 150. But give it a chance first :sunny:
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Subject: Thanks :) Mon Feb 25 2008, 10:22

I'll get a cheap pg test, I think my batch is good though. :)

Thanks for the thoughts on that articshark, good to know it's just as potent with the 5000amps.

Hunger is good now, so I'll just keep on using the 200 for now. Weight loss is good too till this morning but I'm pretty sure that was my fault. :P I ate about 40 calories worth of dark chocolate with xylitol (which was actually only a little piece). I also had an orange julius yesterday for breakfast so I could last through church. So I fed the rest of the chocolate bar to the girls this morning because I don't want anything slowing my weight loss down! :) I'll test later on with the other half of the orange to see if it might have been part of it too. As of yesterday I was down from 196.6 to 188.8 and this morning was still 188.8. But I'm very pleased with the overall loss! Anyone else find it hard though with giving snacks and making meals for their kids and husbands to not partake? So far I have been really, really good! The bit of chocolate was the only deviation I've made the last six days. But I'm still over here drooling...You know what I miss most? Cheese!! And tortillas! Weird huh?

I drank your stevia lemonade this morning grandmasmitty, it was really good! And something about it really took away the cravings and any residual hunger, I'll last till lunch easily. ;) I'll probably come back later and post some of the flavorful things I have been doing in the recipes. Thank goodness we can have spices, they're a God-send! :)

Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Mon Feb 25 2008, 10:33

Ohhh Good!!! Glad to see that the hunger is going away! The cravings do get a little weird! I noticed I craved cheese on my first round and of course, everything I couldn't have I wanted. I realize more and more that the cravings are not at all hunger related! Seeing other people eat goodies while you're on P2 is extremely hard I think for everyone, you just have to keep telling yourself that this is temporary and the losses definately out weigh any (well most giggle

) temptations! Stay strong! You're doing great!
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Subject: Re: STARVING and somewhat discouraged... Mon Feb 25 2008, 11:46

Ahhg! the dreaded food prep temptation....that is sooo hard. P2 is challenging enough but when you have to make lots of yummy things for the family it is hard! I try to feed myself first so I'm not tempted to steal a bite. which may sound selfish but it keeps me sane! winking

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