Why not get your heart rate up?

Supreme Member Joined : 09 Aug 2007 Posts : 157

I see that Kevin T sais to not to get your heart rate up. Simeons doesnt say one way or another about heart rate. Does it matter?And if we arent supposed to, what is the reason behind it?

Subject: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Sep 02 2007, 05:26

I'm currently skimming through his book. I'll read it in detail after I finish skimming. :flower 2:

I just read last night in the question and answer section about aerobic exercise. In the FAQ secton on page 137 it says "Aerobic excercise is extremely healthy and beneficial and should be engaged in by everyone at any level you desire."

Does he say something different somewhere else?

Subject: Re: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Sep 02 2007, 14:08

I looked...but couldn't find a 'reason' for it. On p. 77 of KT's book it says 'Getting your heart rate up to a level of aerobic should not be done during your walking.'

So...I don't know confused 2

Sorry...

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Subject: Re: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Sep 02 2007, 14:47

Hang.. on.. ..Hang on... . I KNOW I saw it .. checking Dr. S....

BRB..........

BINGO.. :clapping 2: I knew lazy, exercise hating Me, had these 'cliff's notes'!!...
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"We encourage swimming and sun bathing during treatment. A game of tennis, a vigorous swim, a run, a ride on horseback or a round of golf do not have this effect; but a long trek, a day of skiing, rowing or cycling or dancing into the small hours usually result in a gain of weight on the following day, unless the patient is in perfect training. In patients coming from abroad, where they always use their cars, we often see this effect after a strenuous day of shopping on foot, sightseeing and visits to galleries and museums. Though the extra muscular effort involved does consume some additional calories, this appears to be offset by the retention of water which the tired circulation cannot at once eliminate."

The 'effect' being.. weight gain... Ewwwww...
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Supreme Member Joined : 09 Aug 2007 Posts : 157

Simeons manuscript:
We encourage swimming and sun bathing during treatment, but it should be remembered that a severe sunburn always produces a temporary rise in weight, evidently due to water retention. The same may be seen when a patient gets a common cold during treatment. Finally, the weight can temporarily increase - paradoxical though this may sound - after an exceptional physical exertion of long duration leading to a feeling of exhaustion. A game of tennis, a vigorous swim, a run, a ride on horseback or a round of golf do not have this effect; but a long trek, a day of skiing, rowing or cycling or dancing into the small hours usually result in a gain of weight on the following day, unless the patient is in perfect training. In patients coming from abroad, where they always use their cars, we often see this effect after a strenuous day of shopping on foot, sightseeing and visits to galleries and museums. Though the extra muscular effort involved does consume some additional calories, this appears to be offset by the retention of water which the tired circulation cannot at once eliminate.

Ok, Im interpreting this as that a run, etc will NOT gain the weight but an all day jont sightseeing, shopping will put on the weight. Im really confused and really want to know.It could mean alot in this weight loss journey.Ladies?

Subject: Re: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Sep 02 2007, 16:50

The CHER INTERPRETATION:

Do nothing strenuous. Keep it light, methodical, and rhythmic.

(I read this dozens of times.. I think he just made a 'boo boo' in his wording, or the transcriptionist?)

ANYWAY.. I think what IS clear is too strenuous, will lead to less loss.
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Subject: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Sep 02 2007, 18:17

It sounds like the book and the manuscript are at odds with each other. lol!

Kevin said he did the protocol with NO exercise. That's good enough for me. Hee Hee.

Supreme Member Joined : 02 Jul 2007 Posts : 161

I have noticed that if I do heavy walking or exercising that my weight stays the same!
Then the next day I take it easy and the loss returns.......must be holding excess water......
possibly due to inflammation from working all
those muscles that aren't used to be worked!! :lol2:

???????????????????? We may never know :laughing 2:
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Subject: Exercise - how I understood Simeon Tue Dec 25 2007, 14:06

How I understand Simeon's text is that exercise consistent with what we already do or a little more strenuous than that is OK. Exercise that is much more taxing than usual for us risks slowing down the weight loss.
So, I am maintaining the routines that I put into place earlier this year. (Well, mostly maintaining. I struggle with the discipline.) I have experienced some difficult hunger on those days, but I have not seen my weight loss stall from working out.
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Subject: fat-burning exercise Wed Dec 26 2007, 07:07

I believe KT may have alluded to this in his book, but I'm not sure - but I've read other places (and experienced) that low-intensity exercise is a lot better for fat-burning.

High intensity exercise tends to burn sugars/carbs. And on this way of eating, and with the HCG, it makes sense that our bodies would do better with fat-burning exercises. We really don't have the sugars available to burn.

Just my two cents...
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Subject: Re: Why not get your heart rate up? Wed Dec 26 2007, 12:21

I do yoga 3 times a week. I have been doing this for several years now. I have a slight gain if I push myself but mostly yoga for me is a great way to get my mind in a good place for the rest of the day. I stopped doing the weight/cardio portion of my workouts. I will add that back in P3 and P4. I want my muscles to be toned when all this fat melts off. Yoga definitely tones and does not bulk up the muscles. That being said, my husband did cardio and weights throughout and didn't have big gains. I think it is because he has been doing that for a while.

So I think if you are already used to exercise, continue. If not, then add some light stretching and work up gradually. Or just wait until you are through with P2. Either way, if you add exercise at some point, your muscles look better with or without the extra fat padding. And it makes you feel good. I son't think that you should start training for a marathon or anything while on P2. But walking, yoga, etc. should be just fine. At least that is what I have gotten from Dr. S's manual and from personal experience.
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Supreme Member Joined : 06 Nov 2007 Posts : 119

I was actually planning on joining a gym today! Kinda wish I didn't read this...
When I did my last Phase 2 I felt like I lost more weight from working out. I was doing the rebounding thing. But I thought I would try the gym out and do the treadmill and elliptical. Now I don't know what to do! sad4

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Subject: Re: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Jan 27 2008, 07:43

One thing that everyone agrees on is that you should walk. So walk ,walk and walk. I need to walk more. I feel better when I do. every one is different, so do what you feel is right for you. and good luck.
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I think I'm going to break out the old trampoline and start doing that regularly...and maybe if I do join the gym I'll do the treadmill mostly. Nothing too difficult.
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Subject: Re: Why not get your heart rate up? Sun Jan 27 2008, 12:55

My mom did her little re bounder. Nothing major just kind of bounced from 1 foot to the next. It is great for your lymphatic system.